have not tried yet . bought for price and to have on hand . did use sinking line i bought . love the way it sinks and the durability of line .caught 7 brown trout 15 inches or more and had no problem with bringing them in . had to speed up trolling speed because of how fast it sinks .do you have a lighter sinking line .hard to do muddlers at speed. not complaining about the line I bought . the best thing I like about your lines is the price . best price I could find .didn't know you at first and bought floater . cost me 49.00 dollars .if I would of know you guy sooner, I could have bought two for that price and still had money to bye flies . thank you . been telling people about you guys ,and I will order again . Dave F.